guys i need a lvl up for a lvl 40 pure druid caster.
I play on a full pvp server
the most important things i need is to get about 25 listen because on server they mod true seeing to needing 50 spot or listen. we can get amplify pots on server so that makes up for that.
Im looking for a high dc caster with max dc on stronghold and sov most important and other important spells.

Please add a list of preferable spells to pick.
Thanks for taking time to read this Why do you need pure Druid? Is it a restriction placed on you by the server?
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The world is grey, the mountain's old
The forge's fire is ashen and cold
No harp is wrung, no hammer falls
The darkness dwells in Druin's halls...

~ Summoning - Khazad-Dúm

Edited By FinneousPJ on 03/07/06 13:06

nah my server is bringing bonus's for pure druids/ The bonuses must be mighty indeed for you to turn down the Monk cheese!
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The world is grey, the mountain's old
The forge's fire is ashen and cold
No harp is wrung, no hammer falls
The darkness dwells in Druin's halls...

~ Summoning - Khazad-Dúm For pure or just near pure druids? as far as i know just pure.
If u have either build a full pure or a monk cheese build (lol) i would be grateful Here's a rough sketch of what I've been thinking of:

Druid 28/CoT 10/Monk 2, Human

Human:
Toughness

CoT:
GW
GW
GW
GW
GW

Druid:
ESpF: Conjuration
Dragon Shape

1. SpF: Conjuration
2. GSpF: Conjuration
3. Zen Archery
4. Weapon Focus: <insert-random-melee-weapon-here>
5. IC: Unarmed
6. META
7. KD

1. EP
2. AS
3. GW
4. GW
5. GW
6. GW
7. GW

08 +00 +00 = 08
10 +00 +00 = 10
14 +00 +00 = 14
14 +00 +00 = 14
18 +10 +10 = 38
08 +00 +00 = 08

HP 460 unbuffed, unshifted
AC 35 unarmored, unbuffed, unshifted
AB 26 unarmed, unbuffed, unshifted; 40 with a ranged weapon

Grease DC 10 +1 +6 +14 = 31 (Reflex), 37 buffed
Stonehold DC 10 +6 +6 +14 = 36 (Will), 42 buffed
Storm of Vengeance DC 10 +9 +6 +14 = 39 (Reflex Special), 45 buffed

+6 to DCs as well as AC (thus becomes 41) from Owl's Insight

Assuming Weapon Finesse works in the high DEX forms (Air Elemental), it's a feat to consider, IMO.

That build is not tested, I've just had it on paper like that for a long time. Should probably be testing and building it soon

http://web1.vattnet.com/staffan/search/builds.htm <-- try that, too.
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The world is grey, the mountain's old
The forge's fire is ashen and cold
No harp is wrung, no hammer falls
The darkness dwells in Druin's halls...

~ Summoning - Khazad-Dúm I haven't tested weapon finesse specifically with elemental forms, but I'm inclined to believe it doesn't work as it doesn't with other shifted forms. Something like this maybe?

Druid(40)
Human, any neutral

STR: 12
DEX: 10
CON: 10
WIS: 18 (34)
INT: 14
CHA: 8

Hitpoints: 320
Skillpoints: 301
Saving Throws (Fortitude/Will/Reflex): 22/34/20
Saving Throw bonuses: Spells: +9
BAB: 25
AB (max, naked): 27 (melee), 38 (ranged)
AC (naked/mundane armor/shield only): 16/24
Spell Casting: Druid(9)

Animal Empathy 43(42), Concentration 43(43), Heal 43(55), Lore 5(7), Open Lock 1(1), Persuade 40(39), Spellcraft 43(45), Spot 21(33), Tumble 20(20)

01: Druid(1): Spell Focus: Conjuration, Greater Spell Focus: Conjuration
02: Druid(2)
03: Druid(3): Extend Spell
04: Druid(4): WIS+1, (WIS=19)
05: Druid(5)
06: Druid(6): Zen Archery
07: Druid(7)
08: Druid(8): WIS+1, (WIS=20)
09: Druid(9): Empower Spell
10: Druid(10)
11: Druid(11)
12: Druid(12): WIS+1, Knockdown, (WIS=21)
13: Druid(13)
14: Druid(14)
15: Druid(15): Improved Knockdown or Blind Fight
16: Druid(16): WIS+1, (WIS=22)
17: Druid(17)
18: Druid(18): Improved Critical: Unarmed
19: Druid(19)
20: Druid(20): WIS+1, (WIS=23)
21: Druid(21): Great Wisdom I, (WIS=24)
22: Druid(22)
23: Druid(23)
24: Druid(24): WIS+1, Great Wisdom II, Great Wisdom III, (WIS=27)
25: Druid(25)
26: Druid(26)
27: Druid(27): Great Wisdom IV, (WIS=28)
28: Druid(28): WIS+1, Great Wisdom V, (WIS=30)
29: Druid(29)
30: Druid(30): Dragon Shape
31: Druid(31)
32: Druid(32): WIS+1, Epic Spell Focus: Conjuration, (WIS=31)
33: Druid(33): Armor Skin
34: Druid(34)
35: Druid(35)
36: Druid(36): WIS+1, Epic Prowess, Epic Energy Resistance: Cold I, (WIS=32)
37: Druid(37)
38: Druid(38)
39: Druid(39): Epic Reflexes
40: Druid(40): WIS+1, Great Wisdom VI, (WIS=34)

Cheers,
Kail
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By fire and magic, I'm sworn
Hell is calling, we cannot be denied
Fly to the blackness of the Storm

We must die to be reborn! Wait, if he wants a pure druid, how about epic spell penetration? it sounds more like a caster than a meleer, and 34 WIS is not a complete need, he's fine with 30 if he wants dragon shape, an you can change those Great WIS into spell penetrations, anyway, I wouldn't believe some bonuses for pure druid could beat the AB, APR, WIS AC bonus and tumble that a single monk level can give.

Weapon finesse doesn't works in shapeshift? I never thought on it because a dragon has 38 DEX and 48 STR, although an air elemental shape might use it. With 40 caster lvls spell penetration is not that important, especially with nature's balance available. No one prevents you from taking it anyhow, might be helpful against SR monks who did not go all the way to ultimate spell resistance to preserve some melee capability. Also, you can use no SR spells in case you meet someone with high SR.

Weapon Finesse does not work with shifted forms; surprised?

I'd like to know what this boni for pure druids are, I wonder if they are worth more than monk cheese.


Cheers,
Kail
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Wait for me Dragon, we'll meet in the sky
By fire and magic, I'm sworn
Hell is calling, we cannot be denied
Fly to the blackness of the Storm

We must die to be reborn!
Quote: Posted 03/08/06 08:39:07 (GMT) -- Kail Pendragon

Weapon Finesse does not work with shifted forms; surprised?

That's sad news indeed. I hope it works in NWN2.
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The world is grey, the mountain's old
The forge's fire is ashen and cold
No harp is wrung, no hammer falls
The darkness dwells in Druin's halls...

~ Summoning - Khazad-Dúm By now, it's not that surprising, it appears to be more impressive that something works with shapeshift rather that not working. nice build thanks, but yeah i want a caster and shifters aint to hot on server so what would u recomend in place of melee feats and also any idea whats best spells i should use, most lvl 40's for is about 40 so need to beat that, they seem not to go to much for will and reflex? hope that helps If you want no melee feats, although druid goes regular melee, maybe maximized spell, or some feats for saves...

Spells, the SR buff might work, Storm of Vengeance can be good with a simple trick, its DC for paralisis will boost up if you cast it and then shapeshift, I still haven't checked which status makes that. Empowered Firestorm might be druid strongest spell, pretty good, fire and divine damage.

Your animal companion will be well worth it with a pure druid, be sure to use Greater Magic Fang and Awakening for the very least, Awakening lasts forever until dispelled or the animal companion dies, but for full, barkskin, empowered bull's strength, freedom of movement, death ward, spell resistance, stoneskin, Extended Aura of vitality, something I might've missed, and if can get one, a branch of giving (that last one is an animal companion buffing item, there might be more around, but I only know that one, gives +1d10 fire or cold damage)
Quote: Posted 03/08/06 12:54:50 (GMT) -- FinneousPJ

Quote: Posted 03/08/06 08:39:07 (GMT) -- Kail Pendragon

Weapon Finesse does not work with shifted forms; surprised?

That's sad news indeed. I hope it works in NWN2.

Actually, according to the patch notes, this is getting fixed in 1.67

A usefull Air Elemental and Death Slaad shape...
Finally!

Hoooray! Indeed this is the case. I'm waiting for the WF/EWF patch though
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Wait for me Dragon, we'll meet in the sky
By fire and magic, I'm sworn
Hell is calling, we cannot be denied
Fly to the blackness of the Storm

We must die to be reborn! I'd like to see Devastatng Critical and EWS working too.