Well the topic says it all


I'm looking for something both melee and ranged

I've tried almost everything but it seems to always come out worse than last time

And most of all it HAS to be a Paladin Arcane Archer Well, you're going to need at least one level of SOR or WIZ in there to qualify for AA. Did you want to be able to use all your Pally spells? If so, you need 14 WIS and at least 15 Pally levels.

For melee, did you want to go with a finessable weapon and high DEX? Or perhaps go with STR and let the AA bonus take care of your ranged AB?
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Where I'm playing now: World of Greyhawk. I was thinking maybe bard


and the pally spells are optional

And yes High dex is a factor, i thought maybe a pair of rapiers and the finesse feat, or something else I don't know i've tried everything


And at least 20 ending charisma so the divine shield and divine might last for a decent number of rounds This isnt anything like you requested, but you get what you payed for. And you didnt pay much *shakes fist angrily*

Elf
Bard 21/Paladin 4/Arcane Archer 15

Stats
STR 14
DEX 15 (+9 ability points)
CON 12
WIS 8
INT 12
CHA 15 (+1 ability)

1 Bard: Power Attack
2 Bard
3 Bard: Weapon Focus: Longbow
4 Bard
5 Bard
6 Bard: Point Blank Shot
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7 Paladin
8 Paladin
9 Paladin: Divine Might
10 Arcane Archer
11 Arcane Archer
12 Paladin: Divine Shield
13 Arcane Archer
14 Arcane Archer
15 Arcane Archer: Blind Fight
16 Arcane Archer
17 Arcane Archer
18 Arcane Archer: Improved Critical: Longbow
19 Arcane Archer
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20 Bard
21 Arcane Archer: Epic Skill Focus: Discipline
22 Arcane Archer
23 Arcane Archer
24 Arcane Archer: Epic Weapon Focus: Longbow
25 Arcane Archer: Bonus: Epic Prowess
26 Arcane Archer
27 Bard: Armour Skin
28 Bard
29 Bard
30 Bard: Extend Spell
31 Bard
32 Bard
33 Bard: Curse Song
34 Bard
35 Bard
36 Bard: Lingering Song
37 Bard
38 Bard
39 Bard: Lasting Inspiration
40 Bard



Skills:
Disc Ranks: 43
Hide Ranks: 20
Move Silently Ranks: 20
Listen Ranks: 43
Perform Ranks: 41
Tumble Ranks: 40
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They were all dead. The final gunshot was an exclamation mark to everything that had led up to this point. I released my finger from the trigger. And then it was all over. The storm seemed to lose its frenzy. The ragged clouds gave way to the stars above. I would probably make simple Paladin 9 / Bard 2 / Arcane Archer 29, it's just a simple 9 Paladin, then Bard, all the way Arcane Archer, and the last level Bard for skilldupms, you can use Bard's song for +1 Ab and damage.... Divine Favor ends with +3, in case you want to use it, you would only need 11 WIS for that one, you can get Aid too, but you would need 14 WIS to be able to get a level 2 slot.

20 ending CHA is somewhat high though... alright, I'll make the build right here and see how it goes.

Elf

STR 12
DEX 17 (26)
CON 10
WIS 11
INT 12
CHA 14 (24)

Raise CHA every time

1 Paladin1 - Point blank shot
3 Paladin3 - Divine Might
6 Paladin6 - Divine Shield
9 Paladin9 - Weapon Focus Longbow

Alignment change

10 Bard1
11 Arcane Archer1
12 Arcane Archer2 - Rapid Shot
15 Arcane Archer5 - Improved Critical longbow
18 Arcane Archer8 - Called Shot
21 Arcane Archer11 - Epic Weapon Focus longbow
24 Arcane Archer14 - Epic Prowess, Great DEX I (18)*
27 Arcane Archer17 - Great DEX II (20)
28 Arcane Archer18 - Great DEX III (19)*
30 Arcane Archer20 - Great DEX IV (21)
32 Arcane Archer22 - Great DEX V (22)*
33 Arcane Archer23 - Great DEX VI (23)
36 Arcane Archer26 - Great DEX VII (24), Great DEX VIII (25)*
39 Arcane Archer29 - Great DEX IX (26)
40 Bard2

* Bonus Feats

Status.... eh.... I'm not really sure since I made it all quick... BAB is 29 though, Enchant Arrow XV, AB should be 56 with a normal longbow if I'm correct.

Paladin spells: 1 level 1 slot, 0 level 2 slots, increase WIS for it.

For skills, I'd take Listen, discipline, Tumble and UMD.... not sure how much points to spare though. (Perform too... but just enough for level 2 Bardsong)

Edited By Thaxll'ssyllia on 04/30/06 18:40

Darn, my edit time is over... I made a mistak in the feats, never took Power Attack and mixed Great DXEes:

STR 12
DEX 17 (24)
CON 10
WIS 11
INT 12
CHA 14 (24)

1 Paladin1 - Point blank shot
3 Paladin3 - Weapon Focus Longbow
6 Paladin6 - Power Attack
7 Bard1
8 Arcane Archer1
9 Paladin7 - Divine Might
10 Paladin8
11 Arcane Archer2
12 Paladin9 - Divine Shield
13 Arcane Archer3
15 Arcane Archer5 - Rapid Shot
18 Arcane Archer8 - Called Shot
21 Arcane Archer11 - Epic Weapon Focus longbow
24 Arcane Archer14 - Epic Prowess, Great DEX I (18)*
27 Arcane Archer17 - Improved Critical longbow
28 Arcane Archer18 - Great DEX II (19)*
30 Arcane Archer20 - Blind-Fight
32 Arcane Archer22 - Great DEX III (20)*
33 Arcane Archer23 - Great DEX IV (21)
36 Arcane Archer26 - Great DEX V (22), Great DEX VI (23)*
39 Arcane Archer29 - Great DEX VII (24)
40 Bard2

AB: +55 Thats great but where would you put weapon finesse

It has to have a decent meele ab too Oh hell, Divine Might/Shield needs 13 STR... well, that shouldn't be so hard to change.... fit it yourself if you want, I don't really think you'll use my build exactly anyway.

Of course, Weapon Finesse, I forgot you wanted decent melee.... and Divine Might should cover well the damage part so it's ok. I don't have space pre-epic, I even had to leave IC into epics, but you could as well take Weapon Finesse in epic levels or move around stuff since pre-epic, (I would leave the prerequisite-AA feats and Divine feats as they are) -1 Great DEX anyway, and having an odd DEX score is wrong so probably Armor Skin to fix stuffs.

You wouldn't be wanting also WF and EWF in a melee right? I think leaving DEX high is better if you're counting to use it both ways, you could even drop EWF, but since WF in a bow is a requirement for Arcane Archer, I'd say EWF is worth it. Or take WF in melee instead of Armor Skin and EWF in melee instead of EWF in ranged, since ranged will have a high AB anyway you could concentrate in improving your melee AB. wf is expandable yes

I just wanted the finesse so i could use a rapier and shield or something like that...

thx a bunch

I'll try it out