I originally build this build for a good rp example for a Ko'di Blademaster (see Avendesora's Ko'di Blademaster) for the Wheel of Time - The Third Age server, because he can achive a high AB while still staying in cloth armor. On this server, as I've said before, the gear is very faction driven, and within the faction that this build is in, the Hundredman rank(epic-1) Has cloth armor with a +6 ac, so I didnt feel that sacraficing an ab, and 4 fortitude points was worth it. (Considering a 60 AC) He does have a decent hide, so in the right hide gear, he can stay out of sight of most players. You could also get appraise and spot instead (As I done on the server). 60 ac, and 60 ab makes him a fearsom opponent to any but the best Str WM's and the intense Munchkin builds, and even then, a formidable opponent. When in duel, Ghostly Visage can be a big help.
I'd love to hear any suggestions to improve this build, or your thoughts. Also, corrections, if I've made a mistake are well recived. _________________ Daryl
By trying to do both str and dex you end up with a character that is gimped. Yes, I am sure that for what you have outlined, it would do fine, but your dex isnt really high enough to do both. You are trying to be a dexer (wearing cloth) yet you come up short on the "ONLY" dexer feat, Epic dodge. Without this, your cloth will hurt you. IF you want to do this type of thing, go bard/rdd/rog, take Elf and pump the heck out of dex, while allowing the rdd lvls to make up for DC.
Other than that, if you are happy with the result, then Oh, and thanks for posting it here, as it is a PW specific build.
Calling a build which doesn't even utilize Weapon Finesse a Dexer is, IMHO, a bit misleading. Anyway I agree with the previous poster on everything he said, really.
Nevertheless, it seems that you have succeeded in what you were trying to get. However, there are some tweaks I'd make, such as swapping Rogue over Assassin, and managing your Epic Feats better (namely, pick EWF on a WM bonus feats so you can get another two Great Attribute feats by dropping Epic Fortitude). You'd lose Epic Toughness II; good riddance! _________________ "... C'est un pays plus nu que la terre polaire — Ni bêtes, ni ruisseaux, ni verdure, ni bois!
Or il n'est pas d'horreur au monde qui surpasse La froide cruauté de ce soleil de glace Et cette immense nuit semblable au vieux Chaos; ..."
Oh and BTW, you should include class levels in your level up guide. _________________ "... C'est un pays plus nu que la terre polaire — Ni bêtes, ni ruisseaux, ni verdure, ni bois!
Or il n'est pas d'horreur au monde qui surpasse La froide cruauté de ce soleil de glace Et cette immense nuit semblable au vieux Chaos; ..."
Quote: Posted 06/07/06 01:53:40 (GMT) -- avado
By trying to do both str and dex you end up with a character that is gimped. Yes, I am sure that for what you have outlined, it would do fine, but your dex isnt really high enough to do both. You are trying to be a dexer (wearing cloth) yet you come up short on the "ONLY" dexer feat, Epic dodge. Without this, your cloth will hurt you.
It gives 11 dex ac, over the 8 armor + 1 dex. I wasnt looking for epic dodge. If I were doing that, I could go for a good elf combo. The thing is, on my PW, RDD is an rp specific class, so it is impossible to take without having everyone killing you for a monster. (I think there is a build that does use that combo, and I could easily do the same, but I would never be happy with the rp that would come from it) _________________ Daryl
Quote: Posted 06/07/06 02:10:17 (GMT) -- FinneousPJ I'd make, such as swapping Rogue over Assassin
Why is this? Doing so will only get you more skill points, in turn for ruining the pvm aspect (since you no longer have Uncanny dodge, thus subtracting 11 ac from any monsters you are not directly attacking.)
Quote: and managing your Epic Feats better (namely, pick EWF on a WM bonus feats so you can get another two Great Attribute feats by dropping Epic Fortitude). You'd lose Epic Toughness II; good riddance!
Which levels do you suggest doing this, and which class levels to switch?
Quote: Oh and BTW, you should include class levels in your level up guide.
Heh, I thought about this as I was doing it, and then by time I was done, I completely forgot. _________________ Daryl
Quote: Posted 06/07/06 03:00:24 (GMT) -- Daryl.S
Why is this? Doing so will only get you more skill points, in turn for ruining the pvm aspect (since you no longer have Uncanny dodge, thus subtracting 11 ac from any monsters you are not directly attacking.)
Since you're not even listing a feat at FTR10, I believe you do not hold that level very important Thus, you should easily enough go with FTR 8/ROG 4/WM 28. Yes, you'd lose one BAB by having to pick Rogue levels pre-epic, but at the same time you'd gain a boost in your Reflex save. And 8 * 4 skills points, should you begin with a level of Rogue. And no, doing so will not only get you more skill points, it will also get you Evasion, without losing anything of importance.
Quote: Posted 06/07/06 03:00:24 (GMT) -- Daryl.S
Which levels do you suggest doing this, and which class levels to switch?
Indeed, here's what I'd suggest you do (and I'm trying to respect the theme, here, too).
AC -- Ought to be the same as yours; note that I have a Tumble dump in pre-epic.
HP -- 484
Saves ----- 21 Fortitude 27 Reflex 14 Will
Skills (257 points)
You should note that if you wanted Epic Fortitude still, you could drop the GSTR feats... that'd lower his AB to 48, though. Anyway, I think Evasion is good.
Quote: Posted 06/07/06 03:00:24 (GMT) -- Daryl.S
Heh, I thought about this as I was doing it, and then by time I was done, I completely forgot.
I hope you'll do it next time, for it makes evaluating your build a lot easier. _________________ "... C'est un pays plus nu que la terre polaire — Ni bêtes, ni ruisseaux, ni verdure, ni bois!
Or il n'est pas d'horreur au monde qui surpasse La froide cruauté de ce soleil de glace Et cette immense nuit semblable au vieux Chaos; ..."
Anyway I agree with the previous poster on everything he said, really.
I am thinking this is one of the nicest compliments I have recieved from this forum! To have the Great FINN say that! I may have to attach it to my signature... jk
Anyway, thanks for the comment Finn (and to think, I am only half finnish Sorry, my mom's side is Ukranian! Yep, I'm a FinUk! Messy combo! It would make a good nwn class combo though)
Quote: Posted 06/07/06 05:34:35 (GMT) -- avado
I am thinking this is one of the nicest compliments I have recieved from this forum! To have the Great FINN say that! I may have to attach it to my signature... jk
Anyway, thanks for the comment Finn (and to think, I am only half finnish Sorry, my mom's side is Ukranian! Yep, I'm a FinUk! Messy combo! It would make a good nwn class combo though)
Euh... you're welcome. _________________ "... C'est un pays plus nu que la terre polaire — Ni bêtes, ni ruisseaux, ni verdure, ni bois!
Or il n'est pas d'horreur au monde qui surpasse La froide cruauté de ce soleil de glace Et cette immense nuit semblable au vieux Chaos; ..."
Oh, and thanks for posting it here, as it is a PW specific build.
Calling a build which doesn't even utilize Weapon Finesse a Dexer is, IMHO, a bit misleading. Anyway I agree with the previous poster on everything he said, really.
Thus, you should easily enough go with FTR 8/ROG 4/WM 28. Yes, you'd lose one BAB by having to pick Rogue levels pre-epic, but at the same time you'd gain a boost in your Reflex save. And 8 * 4 skills points, should you begin with a level of Rogue. And no, doing so will not only get you more skill points, it will also get you Evasion, without losing anything of importance.
I am thinking this is one of the nicest compliments I have recieved from this forum! To have the Great FINN say that! I may have to attach it to my signature... 
jk
Sorry, my mom's side is Ukranian! Yep, I'm a FinUk! Messy combo! It would make a good nwn class combo though)