Okay well this is an odd build
but I would like help on making it useful

it uses Epic Medusa Shape (weird I know O.o)
and Dev Crit

Mwahaha

i introduce the

Devving Medusa

Halfling Druid/Monk/Shifter (11/12/17)

Starting Stats:

Str - 16
Dex - 10
Intel - 14
Con - 10
Wis - 14
Char - 8

Everything goes into Strength.

Level Progression:

1. Druid - Alertness
2. Druid
3. Monk - Martial Weapon Proficiency
4. Druid
5. Druid
6. Druid - Weapon Focus: Shortbow (I dont know if she uses shortbow or longbow, will have to check that out)
7. Shifter
8. Shifter
9. Shifter - Blind Fight
10. Shifter
11. Shifter
12. Shifter - Power Attack
13. Shifter
14. Shifter
15. Shifter - Great Cleave
16. Shifter
17. Monk
18. Monk - Improved Critical: Shortbow
19. Monk
20. Monk
21. Shifter - Great Str I
22. Shifter
23. Shifter - Great Wis I
24. Shifter - Epic Weapon Focus: Shortbow
25. Shifter
26. Shifter - Great Wis II
27. Shifter - Overwhelming Critical - Shortbow
28. Monk (Max Disc, tumble, listen, hide/ms)
29. Druid
30. Druid - Epic Skill Focus - Discipline
31. Druid
32. Druid
33. Druid - Devestating Critical - Shortbow (Max Spellcraft here)
34. Monk
35. Monk
36. Monk - Epic Skill Focus - Listen
37. Monk
38. Monk
39. Druid - Great Str II
40. Monk (Max all skills again)


Since this is just a concept (at the moment) I am unsure of all shifted stats (such as AB and AC)

but I would love if you guys could help me

ty

-DarkInferno
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They were all dead. The final gunshot was an exclamation mark to everything that had led up to this point. I released my finger from the trigger. And then it was all over. The storm seemed to lose its frenzy. The ragged clouds gave way to the stars above. Yeah... why medusa?
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Star Wreck
Quote: Posted 07/30/06 02:14:47 (GMT) -- FinneousPJ

Yeah... why medusa?

because she has a bow...
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They were all dead. The final gunshot was an exclamation mark to everything that had led up to this point. I released my finger from the trigger. And then it was all over. The storm seemed to lose its frenzy. The ragged clouds gave way to the stars above.
Quote: Posted 07/30/06 02:32:23 (GMT) -- DarkInfernoo

because she has a bow...

Err -- no, she does not have a bow. None of the shapes in this game are ranged. Manticore spikes doesn't count, BTW.
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"With Europe liberated, the people of the world turned their attention to that old devil, the United States of America [...] We taught that monster of old the true meaning of freedom."
Star Wreck
Quote: Posted 07/30/06 02:42:38 (GMT) -- FinneousPJ

Quote: Posted 07/30/06 02:32:23 (GMT) -- DarkInfernoo

because she has a bow...

Err -- no, she does not have a bow. None of the shapes in this game are ranged. Manticore spikes doesn't count, BTW.

well she had a bow when I played

xD

and that was 10 minutes ago
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They were all dead. The final gunshot was an exclamation mark to everything that had led up to this point. I released my finger from the trigger. And then it was all over. The storm seemed to lose its frenzy. The ragged clouds gave way to the stars above.
Quote: Posted 07/30/06 02:49:23 (GMT) -- DarkInfernoo

well she had a bow when I played

xD

and that was 10 minutes ago

Then you have either a hak/override or you're playing on a server with one. I know the medusa shape is unarmed by default.
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"With Europe liberated, the people of the world turned their attention to that old devil, the United States of America [...] We taught that monster of old the true meaning of freedom."
Star Wreck
Quote: Posted 07/30/06 03:20:29 (GMT) -- FinneousPJ

Quote: Posted 07/30/06 02:49:23 (GMT) -- DarkInfernoo

well she had a bow when I played

xD

and that was 10 minutes ago

Then you have either a hak/override or you're playing on a server with one. I know the medusa shape is unarmed by default.

well I guess I do then

but lets assume that the medusa does have a bow
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They were all dead. The final gunshot was an exclamation mark to everything that had led up to this point. I released my finger from the trigger. And then it was all over. The storm seemed to lose its frenzy. The ragged clouds gave way to the stars above. I'm curious - did your medusa have a short- or a longbow?
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"With Europe liberated, the people of the world turned their attention to that old devil, the United States of America [...] We taught that monster of old the true meaning of freedom."
Star Wreck
Quote: Posted 07/30/06 03:28:52 (GMT) -- FinneousPJ

I'm curious - did your medusa have a short- or a longbow?

shortbow
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They were all dead. The final gunshot was an exclamation mark to everything that had led up to this point. I released my finger from the trigger. And then it was all over. The storm seemed to lose its frenzy. The ragged clouds gave way to the stars above. As it is, Devastating Critical with shortbow is as odd as it can get.

About your shotbow-ed Medusa, does it gets mighty? because if it doesn't, getting Dev Crit could be a substantial AC loss.

Anyhow, Weapon Focuses do not work on shifted creatures, do not trust your Character Sheet. Weapon Prowess works fine though.

Eh, Called Shot? great feat for ranged.

I suppose you have your reasons for the ESFs, but Armor Skin could fit there too.

I have to ask why 12 Monk levels? 6 or 9 could be better to get more buffs from Druid.

Any othe reason for trying Medusa? (I imagine the shape has some petrify gaze, but since I've never used it...)

Edited By Thaxll'ssyllia on 07/30/06 17:03

Quote: Posted 07/30/06 17:00:34 (GMT) -- Thaxll'ssyllia

As it is, Devastating Critical with shortbow is as odd as it can get.

About your shotbow-ed Medusa, does it gets mighty? because if it doesn't, getting Dev Crit could be a substantial AC loss.

Anyhow, Weapon Focuses do not work on shifted creatures, do not trust your Character Sheet. Weapon Prowess works fine though.

Eh, Called Shot? great feat for ranged.

I suppose you have your reasons for the ESFs, but Armor Skin could fit there too.

I have to ask why 12 Monk levels? 6 or 9 could be better to get more buffs from Druid.

Any othe reason for trying Medusa (I imagine the shape has some petrify gaze, but since I've never used it...)

12 monk levels is for monk speed only, but it can be changed.

and as for medusa shape... its the only shape with a weapon (on my server O.O) that I havent tried Dev Crit with yet.

I think called shot is on the shortbow.. same with mighty.

Arent weapon focuses pre reqs for Dev Crit???
Or I must be stupid.. i dont know.. I think im stupid.

yes thats it.. stupid.
mwahhaa
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They were all dead. The final gunshot was an exclamation mark to everything that had led up to this point. I released my finger from the trigger. And then it was all over. The storm seemed to lose its frenzy. The ragged clouds gave way to the stars above.
Quote: Posted 07/30/06 17:05:11 (GMT) -- DarkInfernoo

Arent weapon focuses pre reqs for Dev Crit???
Or I must be stupid.. i dont know.. I think im stupid.

No, but Thax is only half-right. See, weapon focuses don't work for unarmed shapes. They do for shapes with a weapon.
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"With Europe liberated, the people of the world turned their attention to that old devil, the United States of America [...] We taught that monster of old the true meaning of freedom."
Star Wreck
Quote: Posted 07/30/06 17:05:11 (GMT) -- DarkInfernoo

...
Arent weapon focuses pre reqs for Dev Crit???
Or I must be stupid.. i dont know.. I think im stupid.

yes thats it.. stupid.
mwahhaa

No they aren't. You ain't stupid, it's the manual to be wrong.


Cheers,
Kail
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Looking for a realm of adventure? Check out World of Greyhawk, you won't regret it. I have seen weapon focuses to work on shifted forms who carry weapons, but they dont work on unarmed because I think unarmed are actually wealding Creature weapons. Which you cant focus in...

can anyone rearrange the levels in my "build" so that its a bit.. better??

because im not good at that

thanks for all the replys though
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They were all dead. The final gunshot was an exclamation mark to everything that had led up to this point. I released my finger from the trigger. And then it was all over. The storm seemed to lose its frenzy. The ragged clouds gave way to the stars above.
Quote: Posted 07/30/06 17:17:43 (GMT) -- FinneousPJ
No, but Thax is only half-right. See, weapon focuses don't work for unarmed shapes. They do for shapes with a weapon.

Now I've had it, what's next? unarmed shifts sink deeper and deeper... eh, oh right, they get monk cheese, whatever. Thanks for the clarification Finn. Well, this "pretend build" would not have a good AB for shortbow, it would only have 3 gaze attacks per shift, and it's AC would be low too.

"IF" the Medusa (btw: No "EPIC" Medusa according to standard HotU and patches) had a shortbow, it could get Dev Crit, just like Risen Lord can get Dev Crit.

To many "IF this" and "let's pretend that" to even make a worth while helpfull build post on this. Who knows what else is affected by the Hak. Whithout knowing that, a person can't give an informed helpfull comment.