Well I've checked the search engine and all the builds I can find seem to use bard as a skill dump with one level.
I was thinking Bard 14 Wizard 26
High Int of a wizard gets you loads of skill points to blow on all the bards skills available.
Level 14 bard song isnt too shabby - not great but every little helps.
Get level 5 bard spells to help out.
level 9 wizard spells
epic spells
the idea was to get auto still III and wander around in full plate and shield to help with AC.
I'll see about knocking up a build in a character creator but was just wondering if anyone else has thought of this build?
or how to improve it/what to include?
starting stats something like (human) Str 12 Dex 8 Con 14 Wis 10 Int 16 Cha 15
Think that works out right
cheers
Edited By Caithdein na Briona on 10/03/06 20:50
Honestly, might wanna go for sorceror instead. Charisma would be helpful to a bard.
I've toyed with the idea, but not come to anything I felt good about yet. I looked at a Bard/WIZ/RDD build as well, but again haven't tweaked it out to my satisfaction yet. _________________ It's rogue, dammit, ROGUE!!!
I agree with Jets, sorcerer has a better synergy. Having bard spells available in the 1-6 spell level arena gives you a lot more flexibility in the spell selection area. That's usually one of the main reasons to choose wizard over sorcerer (greater spell selection). The other is the lack of feats on the sorcerer side which you would still have. Of course, you'd probably still want to make a decent investment in intelligence to get more skill points.
Either way, I'd consider going 16 bard. It's a sweet spot for the bard song. Granted you are making yourself susceptable to dispells, so it's probably six of one 1/2 dozen of the other. _________________ In order to find his equal, an Irishman is forced to talk to God. Yes, Father. The Almighty says don't change the subject; just answer the &%$#@& question.
Bard will synergize nicely with both Wizard and Sorceror, imo, though for different reasons. The sorceror benefits from shared stats, but the wizard benefits a lot more from the Bard's skill set. The Bard spells can always be used for utility spells a wizard may not typically keep memorized.
The way I've built Wizard/ Bards is with a max Int, curse song, and however many spell foci I can fit in. A level 15 Curse Song will reduce all your opponents saves by 2, effectively increasing all of your Spell DCs, which can be a big deal for certain Necromancers, Enchanters, and Transmuters. 15 levels is a pretty heavy investment, but with only 6 Bard levels you can decrease saves by 1 while keeping plenty of skill dumps for later levels, or perhaps even leaving enough room for a sprinkling of a third class. Personally, I prefer the Bard 6-ish variant because it puts less pressure on Charisma and Wizard caster levels. _________________ (I enjoy writing parenthetically (a lot)).
I know this is an old thread, but I'm curious, what if you were to specialize with Wizard that didn't allow the use of invis spell, but since bards can cast invis, would that work or would the engine deny it?
I agree with Jets, sorcerer has a better synergy. Having bard spells available in the 1-6 spell level arena gives you a lot more flexibility in the spell selection area. That's usually one of the main reasons to choose wizard over sorcerer (greater spell selection). The other is the lack of feats on the sorcerer side which you would still have. Of course, you'd probably still want to make a decent investment in intelligence to get more skill points.