Guys im looking for a Dev crit human build.
I need Max umd for this build and im looking for a dc about 46 minimum.
I am also looking for good crit rate so i want to use a rapier maybe Scimiter we use socket weaps on the server i play so i can add 2 damage and 1 keen stone to weapon.
There is immune to crit helm aswell so dont worry about that side of it too much.
Also i would like Imp kd/disarm on the build and possibly decent sneak attack aswell.
So im thinking maybe rogue rdd wm? or rogue bg rdd?
What do you guys think please list some lvl ups for this.
Also im looking for a minimum 620ish ab. and decent ac i want full plate and tower shield aswell for this.
Also many skills as possible.
I cant think what else i wanna add so help me out.
Have a nice christmas all and your familys. You can't get it all, especially if the 46 DC has to be the base DC (no STR enhancement computed in).

RDD requires Bard or Sorcerer to be accessible.

620ish AB? You mean HPs I guess...

46 DC on Dev crit requires 42 STR. If you want the 46 DC to be natural (before STR buffs through items) then you'll be needing RDD.

FTR/Bard/RDD looks like the safest bet. You'll need the feats FTR brings. FTR 14/Bard 16/RDD 10 (FTR 4/Bard 8/RDD 8 preepic, or FTR 2/Bard 8/RDD 10 if you wanna exploit divine power scrolls). You'll still fall short on Disarm/Imp Disarm (unless you sacrifice other IMO essential feats for it), HPs total, SAs and skillpoints. Tell me if you wanna see such a build.


You can try with a Rogue/Bard/RDD, HPs will be even lower and you'll suffer from feat starvation.


Bard/RDD/WM is feat starved big time, I'd stay clear of it.


If the Dev Crit DC (46) can be reached via STR enhancements, the task gets easier (since you'll not need to spend most of your epic feats on Great STR).


Cheers,
Kail
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Leave the hall! Woops was meant to be 62ab lol

Ok if i cant get that how about a same sort of stat build with loads of sneak damage and dev?
Kali give me a couple of ur best Dev builds please.

Tx m8
Quote: Posted 12/25/06 08:18 (GMT) -- peterwiltshire1

Woops was meant to be 62ab lol

Ok if i cant get that how about a same sort of stat build with loads of sneak damage and dev?
Kali give me a couple of ur best Dev builds please.

Tx m8

62 AB??? Do you realize how high is that? You need a Cleric to get that without magic gear. I can give you a DTR/Bard/RDD with a very respectable 46 AB, self buffable to 56-57 (GMW, War Cry, Bull's STR, Bard Song), effectively (Curse Song) to 61-62 or 67-68 with Taunt. Add Aid and Bless potions, STR gear and clerical buffing scrolls and you can cap your AB with ease at 62 plus indirect effects (Curse Song and Taunt) which can bring it at 73.

Here we go:


Bard(16), Fighter(14), Red Dragon Disciple(10)
Human, any non lawful


ABILITIES (ending)
STR: 18 (42)
DEX: 8
CON: 12 (14)
WIS: 8
INT: 12 (14)
CHA: 14 (16)


BASIC STATS
Hitpoints: 440
Skillpoints: 229

Saving Throws (Fortitude/Will/Reflex): 24/22/18


BAB: 26
AB: 46 (melee), 26 (ranged)
Dev Crit DC: 46 (52 with capped STR)

AC (naked/full plate and shield): 23/34 (36 with +4 to DEX)

Spell Casting: Bard(6)


SKILLS
Concentration 24(26), Discipline 43(59), Lore 8(26), Open Lock 1(0), Perform 27(30), Taunt 43(46), Tumble 40(39), UMD 42(45)


LEVELING GUIDE
01: Bard(1): Power Attack, Lingering Song
02: Fighter(1): Weapon Focus
03: Fighter(2): Cleave, Knockdown
04: Fighter(3): STR+1, (STR=19)
05: Fighter(4): Weapon Specialization
06: Red Dragon Disciple(1): Blind fight
07: Bard(2)
08: Red Dragon Disciple(2): STR+1, (STR=22)
09: Red Dragon Disciple(3): Great Cleave
10: Red Dragon Disciple(4): (STR=24)
11: Red Dragon Disciple(5)
12: Bard(3): STR+1, Improved Critical, (STR=25)
13: Red Dragon Disciple(6)
14: Red Dragon Disciple(7): (CON=14)
15: Red Dragon Disciple(8): Still Spell
16: Bard(4): STR+1, (STR=26)
17: Bard(5)
18: Bard(6): Curse Song
19: Bard(7)
20: Bard(8): STR+1, (STR=27)
21: Red Dragon Disciple(9): Great Strength I, (STR=28), (INT=14)
22: Red Dragon Disciple(10): {Darkvision}, (STR=32), (CHA=16)
23: Bard(9)
24: Fighter(5): STR+1, Great Strength II, (STR=34)
25: Fighter(6): Overwhelming Critical
26: Fighter(7)
27: Fighter(8): Great Strength III, Devastating Critical, (STR=35)
28: Fighter(9): STR+1, (STR=36)
29: Fighter(10): Epic Weapon Focus
30: Bard(10): Great Strength IV, (STR=37)
31: Bard(11)
32: Bard(12): STR+1, (STR=38)
33: Bard(13): Great Strength V, (STR=39)
34: Bard(14)
35: Fighter(11)
36: Fighter(12): STR+1, Great Strength VI, Epic Prowess, (STR=41)
37: Bard(15)
38: Fighter(13)
39: Fighter(14): Toughness, Armor Skin
40: Bard(16): STR+1, (STR=42)


You can move 2 FTR or Bard lvls in Epic and go RDD 10 preepic if you want to exploit Divine Power for the 4th attack at full AB (much higher chances to crit), provided DP scrolls are easily available where you play.
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Edited By Kail Pendragon on 12/25/06 17:15

Heh heh, you never asked Kail; how is your magical setting peterwiltshire1? it would be nice to know what level of magic weapons and armor you have there.

Quote: 62 AB??? Do you realize how high is that?

He knows what he wants, it's a better request than the usual "high AB".

He does asks for too much, there are some other ways to get the AB than only RDD-STR path, even a higher AB, but your Dev crit DC is going down. I'm still not sure why you say you need such a dev crit DC if you admit there is an accesible Crit-immune helm, it's the best property I know of on a helm, I use that helm on every server it is available, so dev crit would effectively end quite useless (well, on PvP, PvM would still rock).

Decent sneak attack is not going to happen with such a high AB/Dev crit DC, you need to save all your feats for Great STR, and still get dev crit, you'd have to replace Fighter for Rogue in that matter, your BAB goes down, important lack of feats, not much sneaking skills, etc. If you want a good sneaker, you'd go better with a Rogue/Cleric/Shadowdancer, that will give you a high AB and sneak, but you might as well forget about Dev crit, or try to get it with a minimum DC (although buffable), still, Epic Dodge is generally a better option than Dev crit when dealing with sneakers.

That's a nice one Kail.

Edited By Thaxll'ssyllia on 12/25/06 17:41

+10 cap on items and the reason i want decent dev and ab is coz it helps wid the lvling.
The spawns forts are around 44+ So this will help speed things up
Kali thanks for this build im gonna hit it up tonigh thank you again and merry xmas
Quote: Posted 12/25/06 17:34 (GMT) -- Thaxll'ssyllia

Heh heh, you never asked Kail; how is your magical setting peterwiltshire1? it would be nice to know what level of magic weapons and armor you have there.

It was an implied question

Besides, I think people should ask for "naked stats" (no magic gear apart self buffs), it makes everything easier. If you know you'll get a +10 scimitar and you want 60 AB, ask for 50 AB with mundane gear. That's my line of reasoning.

Quote: Posted 12/25/06 17:54 (GMT) -- peterwiltshire1

+10 cap on items and the reason i want decent dev and ab is coz it helps wid the lvling.
The spawns forts are around 44+ So this will help speed things up
Kali thanks for this build im gonna hit it up tonigh thank you again and merry xmas

With a +10 weapon and bardic buffs or scrolls/potions you'll get your 62 AB easily.

The build is quite playable, UMD from the start ensures it. The growing Bardic power will just make things sweeter as you level up. You're gonna cut through mobs like there's no tomorrow, I'm confident. Have fun.
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