Your best Arcane Archer!


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Quote: Posted 02/14/07 01:31 (GMT) -- Endalyor

Your best Arcane Archer!


GO!

Considering everyone always asks for specifics from you, and you always have them, perhaps you can start.
Quote: Posted 02/14/07 01:31 (GMT) -- Endalyor

Your best Arcane Archer!


GO!

I don't really follow, is this supposed to work as a requst, or just plain fun? because if you only want to see AAs use the build searcher. If you're asking for our AA builds (which literally could be), well, then I only have 2 AA builds: Artillery Archer (Rogue 19 / Wizard 2 / Arcane Archer 19) and Godly archer (Paladin 8 / Bard 3 / Arcane Archer 29) but really, those aren't the best AAs you'll find in the guild. There are very many ways of building AA's.

I have searched the builds posted in this guild to find the ideas behind the different AA builds.
If you read My sticky on AA builds, you may find some useful info about the AA class and get a general idea of what you get with different comboes of stats and classes.
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-- BG courtesan What's interesting about Arcane Archers, is that out of all the classes, they have the most options when it comes to which attribute in which they can "major."

They can be Strength-based (ala Dev Crit), Wis-based (ala Zen), Dex-based (just your classic), Charisma-based (ala Divine Archer), or even Con-based (ala EDR and high hp), or a mixture/hybrid of any two of the above.

Many options, many options. In a low-magic world, I'm putting money on Syrath's Shadow Archer.
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Ariel, Ookla, RIDE! You can't go wrong with a Fighter 10 / Bard 2 / AA 28, it's a general easy way to build an AA with good firepower. Preferabley a Bard with less than 13 levels of bard, atleast 3 levels in each class, AB over 60, High AC, over 60 preferabley in +5 gear, ummm...Can have more than 13 bard, but I'd prefer it didn't...Good in PvP...Yeah!

Bonus!: My friend told me of a 21 Bard / 4 Fighter / 15 AA
Feats: Extended Spell, Lasting Inspiration, EWF & EWS, Some great dex, Race Elf...Anyone know how to make this one?

Edited By Endalyor on 02/18/07 05:58

This is not the perfect way. You're bound to get xp-penalties with such a build, but I postponed it to lvl 21.

Should be good enough.

Arcane Archer(15), Bard(21), Fighter(4), Elf

STR: 10
DEX: 18 (32)
CON: 10
WIS: 8
INT: 12
CHA: 16

01: Bard(1): Point Blank Shot
02: Bard(2)
03: Bard(3): Rapid Shot
04: Bard(4): DEX+1, (DEX=19)
05: Bard(5)
06: Bard(6): Weapon Focus: Longbow
07: Bard(7)
08: Bard(8): DEX+1, (DEX=20)
09: Arcane Archer(1): Weapon Finesse
10: Arcane Archer(2)
11: Arcane Archer(3)
12: Bard(9): DEX+1, Curse Song, (DEX=21)
13: Arcane Archer(4)
14: Arcane Archer(5)
15: Arcane Archer(6): Improved Critical: Longbow
16: Arcane Archer(7): DEX+1, (DEX=22)
17: Bard(10)
18: Arcane Archer(8): Extend Spell
19: Arcane Archer(9)
20: Arcane Archer(10): DEX+1, (DEX=23)
21: Fighter(1): Great Dexterity I, Epic Weapon Focus: Longbow, (DEX=24)
22: Fighter(2): Epic Prowess
23: Fighter(3)
24: Fighter(4): DEX+1, Weapon Specialization: Longbow, Epic Weapon Specialization: Longbow, (DEX=25)
25: Arcane Archer(11)
26: Arcane Archer(12)
27: Arcane Archer(13): Great Dexterity II, (DEX=26)
28: Arcane Archer(14): DEX+1, Great Dexterity III, (DEX=28)
29: Arcane Archer(15)
30: Bard(11): Great Dexterity IV, (DEX=29)
31: Bard(12)
32: Bard(13): DEX+1, (DEX=30)
33: Bard(14): Armor Skin
34: Bard(15)
35: Bard(16)
36: Bard(17): DEX+1, Epic Skill Focus: Perform, (DEX=31)
37: Bard(18)
38: Bard(19)
39: Bard(20): Lasting Inspiration
40: Bard(21): DEX+1, (DEX=32)

Hitpoints: 286
Skillpoints: 207
Saving Throws (Fortitude/Will/Reflex): 20/19/35
Saving Throw bonuses: Mind Effects: +2
BAB: 27
AB (max, naked): 39 (melee), 50 (ranged)
AC (naked/mundane armor/shield only): 31/34
Spell Casting: Bard(6)

ESF: perform is needed to reach 55 ranks which is required of lvl 21 song. Your levelling will of course depend upon whether you want LI to come earlier and such.

AB with mundane bow and arrows = 50.
Dmg= 1d8+21. Not bad. This is before your song and spells etc I don't really care about the xp penalty
Would I have a higher AB if some fighter was taken pre epic? Okay, my friend who made it said take 4 fighter pre epic, and don't get EWS. Then I though...WHAT IF you go 21 bard/ 6 Fighter/ 13 AA? and got EWS?

You would do...3 more damage, and have 1 less AB right? Or same AB? Ftr 8/Bard 3/AA 29 sounds good for your criteria.
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Quote: Posted 02/18/07 18:30 (GMT) -- FinneousPJ

Ftr 8/Bard 3/AA 29 sounds good for your criteria.

Could you elaborate? AA 29 gives maxed Enchant Arrow (XV).

The only problem with taking 19 epic AA levels, is that there is not room for both a Fighter lvl to get EWS and a Bard lvl for the skill dump (tumble, spellcraft etc).
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-- BG courtesan How about this:

Fighter(6), Bard(7), Arcane Archer(27), Elf

STR: 12
DEX: 18 (36)
CON: 12
WIS: 8
INT: 14
CHA: 12

Hitpoints: 398
Skillpoints: 246
Saving Throws (Fortitude/Will/Reflex): 23/17/35
BAB: 28
AB (max, naked): 42 (melee), 59 (ranged)
AC (naked/mundane armor/shield only): 33/33
Spell Casting: Bard(2)

Discipline 40(41), Perform 11(12), Spellcraft 40(42), Tumble 40(53), UMD 40(41), 75 left over for whatever you want.

Bard Song: +1 to AB, +2 to damage, +1 to saves and skills

01: Ba(1): Dodge
02: F(1): Weapon Finesse
03: F(2): Point Blank Shot, Weapon Focus: Longbow
04: Ba(2): DEX+1, (DEX=19)
05: Ba(3)
06: F(3): Rapid Shot
07: F(4): Weapon Specialization: Longbow
08: AA(1): DEX+1, (DEX=20)
09: AA(2): Blind Fight
10: AA(3)
11: AA(4)
12: AA(5): DEX+1, Toughness, (DEX=21)
13: AA(6)
14: AA(7)
15: AA(8): Expertise
16: AA(9): DEX+1, (DEX=22)
17: AA(10)
18: Ba(4): Improved Expertise*
19: F(5)
20: Ba(5): DEX+1, (DEX=23)
21: F(6): Epic Weapon Focus: Longbow, Epic Weapon Specialization: Longbow
22: AA(11)
23: AA(12)
24: AA(13): DEX+1, Great Dexterity I, (DEX=25)
25: AA(14): Great Dexterity II, (DEX=26)
26: AA(15)
27: Ba(6): Epic Prowess
28: AA(16): DEX+1, (DEX=27)
29: AA(17)
30: AA(18): Armor Skin, Great Dexterity III, (DEX=28)
31: AA(19)
32: AA(20): DEX+1, (DEX=29)
33: AA(21): Great Dexterity IV, (DEX=30)
34: AA(22): Great Dexterity V, (DEX=31)
35: AA(23)
36: AA(24): DEX+1, Great Dexterity VI, (DEX=33)
37: Ba(7)
38: AA(25)
39: AA(26): Great Dexterity VII, Great Dexterity VIII, (DEX=35)
40: AA(27): DEX+1, (DEX=36)

*Could be traded for Curse Song or Lingering Song

He gives up 1 point of EA to get the 2 extra skill dumps. With Bard Song and his self-buffs his AB will be in the low 60's, and his damage will be 1d6 +14 (EA) +6 (EWS) +2 (song) + 2-3 (buffed Str). He has no XP penalties throughout the build (if XP penalty doesn't matter, you could drop Fighter to 4, and raise Bard to 9, dropping Improved Expertise pre-epic. Take fighter 4 at level 24, and pick up WS and EWS together). This boosts your song to give +1 more AB and +8 HP.

TM Am I correct in thinking expertise/improved expertise does not work with ranged weapons?
Quote: Posted 02/22/07 04:00 (GMT) -- mantis3

Am I correct in thinking expertise/improved expertise does not work with ranged weapons?

Yes.
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Star Wreck In that case, drop them for Curse Song/Lingering Song, Called Shot, or other feat of your choice.

Also, on the skills, be sure to max Taunt.

TM
Quote: Posted 02/18/07 17:55 (GMT) -- Endalyor

Okay, my friend who made it said take 4 fighter pre epic, and don't get EWS. Then I though...WHAT IF you go 21 bard/ 6 Fighter/ 13 AA? and got EWS?

You would do...3 more damage, and have 1 less AB right? Or same AB?

If you take 10 AA pre-epic, then taking two fighter levels (bard8/Ftr2/AA10) would gain 1 AB, and 6 fighter would gain 2 AB. Bard looses 1 AB at levels 1,5,9,13 etc.

Problem is if you take 2 fighter pre-epic in my build you lose Epic feats, which would probably cause you to lose that 1 AB anyway. Of course you take EWS.....
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