I play on a server which allows you to reach lvl 60. dev crit and epic dodge is not allowed and magic items are rare, but some nearly as powerful the less good items on BoW. class restrictions are not big, but you are only allowed to take 1 PrC. Sorc/paly is not allowed. Rdd requires chaotic alignement.
So I'm looking for ideas. There are so many options open. Think big dmg and/or AC _________________ Valkos clueless
Level 60 with a low magic world...
I'd try to take a build that would take advantage of those extra levels in some way. Extra Sneak attack is nice, but I have something different in mind...
how about... oh ... say .... <you know it's coming>.... a SHIFTER!
Find a form that increases it's damage output with extra levels. That would not have a cap on it. I kinda like my Spitball build for that purpose. The Death Sladd Lord spits "Magical" damage which has no natural defense against it. It does not rely on AB and does not care about SR.
Spitball:
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between 40 - 60, take a Druid level in order to get stoneskin and freedom of movement. Pepper here and there with SD to boost your sneakyness (13 SD levels gets you an Epic feat). The rest gets dumpped into Shifter level in order to boost the Spit Damage.
It's a Range Touch Attack so Sneak an Epic Prowess in there and pump up your Wisdom.
No Zen Archery, str/dex/con get overwritten so don't pump those. Go EDR, or feats that pump your saves.
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Option #2.
Take a look at my Holy Icicles build:
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A Cleric Based Rak Ice Storm spammer. Dr 5/Cl 25/Sh 10
It would really benefit from 15 more cleric levels and 5 druid levels.
It would then have the best Icicles around. 18 Blunt + 90 Cold. allll daaayyy lllooonnnggg
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Option #3:
How about a Gargoyle/Undead Tank?
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This build relies upon Mestile Acid Sheath or Elemental Shield to do your damage for you.
It's a Dr/Wiz/Sh 7/22/11 split. Add 18 to Wiz and 2 to Dr.
Your Empowered MA-Sheath is now doing a minimum of 121-129 points of Acid Damage per hit.
You have Undead form for those Dev Crits or Sneakers, you have Gargoyle for Style. Take Disarm and cause some AoO for those who are unwilling to touch you. You want to keep you AC low for this build, you don't care about AB either. So pump up your EDR and saving throws.
That sounds awesome man, but I don't know at which extent that will work...
Anyway, you can make something like a Cleric 20 / Ranger 21 / Weapon Master 19 with Bane of Enemies, a lot of buffs and critical power.
But, how's the magical environment? that's a critical issue.
I'd probably use an extended version of my Dwarven Abomination or my Magic Master, which lack levels in a 40 environment for something like a Cleric 26 / Fighter 4 / Dwarven Defender 30 or Cleric 24 / Wizard 30 / Monk 6...
I'm very fond of making my own clothes and outfits... no shape shifting Who could have known that? hehe =) _________________ Valkos clueless
With 60 levels, who could resist a pure Sorcerer or Wizard? Or a Fighter6/Bard26/PM28? _________________ Got Hommlet? World of Greyhawk Action Server (with 1/2 price ales on Mondays!)
With 60 levels, who could resist a pure Sorcerer or Wizard?
My Holy Icicle could.
Quote: Or a Fighter6/Bard26/PM28?
My Gargoyle/Undead Tank could.
Quote: Posted 03/07/07 17:28 (GMT) -- Kalmar_Oxin
I'm very fond of making my own clothes and outfits... no shape shifting Who could have known that? hehe =)
That makes me a sad camper.
*packs up his Shifter suitcase and heads out the door*
Bromium + No Shifting = System Failure
60 levels will be good for almost any class, you can make the true maximum sneak attack + death attack; DR 30/-, BoE or heavy caster on any build.
I'd like to know, hence to the level boost, if you can make Dwarven Defender and Barbarian's DR to stack up to 37/-, just curious, since it would be nice, though it's definitely not adviceable to go Barbarian 30 / Dwarven Defender 30, but a Barbarian 26 / Dwarven Defender 30 / Fighter 4 isn't bad, I'd make it just for the fun of having DR 36/-.
Huh, level 60 makes possible what we could never do: take Great Strength X, that should be nice.
Edited By Thaxll'ssyllia on 03/08/07 04:14
Yup Great Str X is awesome! And that is why I think something with rdd would be nice. You could make the ultimate STR build. IKD would never be a problem.
You could also take this on for size: 56 ranger. This gives you ALL favored enemies.. slam 4 ftr lvls in.. bam +6 dmg on favored weapon. Can someone say.. hurt? _________________ Valkos clueless
Edited By Kalmar_Oxin on 03/08/07 09:07
Elder Earth/Air Elemental Assassin.
Dr/M/As 20/9/31
IKD Improved Evasion Monk Wis AC bonus 34(base) str, 22 con, 10 dex Death Attack (10+ Assasin level + Int Modifier) 16d6 Sneak damage Improved Invis casting while shifted. 130% Movement rate. (not accurate since Elementals are a little slower then humanoids) Elemental Immunities 15/+3 DR
Want more AC use Elder Air instead and make sure to take Weapon Finness as a feat. 34 dex, 23 str, 19 con
You'll be punching for mega damage. Sneak punches do 100+ each hit.
IKD + blam blam blam = fight over.
Quote: Posted 03/08/07 09:04 (GMT) -- Kalmar_Oxin
You could also take this on for size: 56 ranger. This gives you ALL favored enemies.. slam 4 ftr lvls in.. bam +6 dmg on favored weapon. Can someone say.. hurt?
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Bromium, give it up, he doesn't wants shifters... and you know the dragon shape gets better stats anyway.
Wow, you can actually take Ranger 56 with all Favored Enemies!? the perfect Bane of Enemies, that's so awesome, so you can take regular classes above level 40, I suspected you'd need to multiclass from level 41 and on, what about prestige classes, they still end up at 30?
Well, RDD gives a lot of STR boost, which is proportionally big, but the higher your possible STR score is the lower the proportion of the boost, even though RDD is great, it might not be much of a boost after all. As for RDD I'd go Cleric 20 / Sorcerer 29 / RDD 10, use divine power exploit, you get Epic Warding, all the cool spells and tons of buffs (I just remembered I still have to test if Darkfire stacks with Flame Weapon, I'll get to you later on that) but since it's a caster type your STR will be regular, RDD will make up for the CHA and WIS investment, but your STR will be just a bit lower than a regular fighter type. To get superb STR score, you'll probably go Barbarian / Bard / RDD, Barbarian with Mighty Rage will let you buff STR real high, with Bard song and buffs your AB will also be very high.
Edited By Thaxll'ssyllia on 03/08/07 16:53
everything is boosted beyound lvl 40. you could make a 10ftr/50wm if you would want that.
I¨m just looking for some cool ideas. There are great options open with so many lvls. The potential is immense. _________________ Valkos clueless
You'd probably want to space out 2 more fighter levels in order to periodically pump Disc.
so you'd be Ro 51 / F 8 / SD 1
You'd have a sneak attack of 36d6 (or more if you choose extra Sneak feat) 5 times per round.
Anything not sneak immune is toast. You have UMD for scrolls against those immune to sneak.
You could also use your UMD for the Polymorph Self spell and shift into... just kidding.
That server is just crazy, seems nice. So... any class improvement keeps growing right? so I could get a DR of 45/- with a Dwarven Defender 50, Enchant Arrow XXV with an Arcane Archer 49, 25d6 Death Attack with Assassin 50 and a base DC of 60 +INT modifier, hard to settle on a single build with 60 levels.
The simple Fighter 11 / Wizard 1 / Arcane Archer 49 will be easy to play and rather strong, for the DR lovers such as me you can extend my build as I said previously, but knowing prestige classes go over 30 maybe it's better to go Cleric 20 / Fighter 2 / Dwarven Defender 38, that will give a lot of buffing power and a great DR of 36/-, some rearrangements are needed, as will be for any level 40 build you try to adapt, to manage bonus feats correctly and take more Great STR.
I'm unsure how much you can manage a pure caster, since you state you can't take Sorcerer/Paladin, perhaps you can improve this build, more levels will help to attain epic spells and higher spell penetration.
Edited By Thaxll'ssyllia on 03/08/07 23:26
I have a 10monk/59assassin/1ranger in the making already.
I' playing this one right now, but I believe it will be very weak at lvl 60.
But I was considering a monk build. 60 lvls of just 50 lvls of monk... imagine the stunnin fist, quivering palm, self heal, etc.. If anyone has a good idea for a monk build then please post it. But listen.If you take monk, when you change class, then you can't become a monk again. They base this on that is takes tim becoming a monk. _________________ Valkos clueless
Heavy Monk? I fail to see how that will be powerful though... Stunning Fist and Quivering Palm DC's are not dependant on your class level, but your whole level, about 10 stunning fists are normally enough, and unless your fists become stronger after class level 40, going too heavy on Monk will end somewhat weak. But I've given my suggestions already, do as you please, good luck.
i've just noticed something very important!
for one to have 3 classes, you need to have all those 3 classes before lvl 20 and you must have 5 in each at least. Very good way to stop multiclassing.
i was wondering if anyone had a great idea for a duel wield build with so many lvls? _________________ Valkos clueless
That sure is annoying, but it should be sorted out quite easily, 5 levels pre-epic of each will only be a bit of a bugger for BAB in most cases, but that's about it, quite easy to actually just take it.
Hmmm sorry to but into this convo here but im interested........
Has anyone got a build for a lvl 60 dever,
I can change alinment so thats no issue. i also would like to get dev crit as early as possible with the highest dc possible due to the fact there isnt much resist on the server i stick my head in now and then. Also i was thinking along the lines of possibly a sorc cleric rdd? so i could get some decent dc with spells like bigbys from lvl 40 u carry on lvling with the last class u take at 40 so bare that in mind aswell please. There is noway off maxing out +12 to all stats so i def need some buffs to boost str.
Also anyone got a build up for a pure 60 sorc needs to be halfling imho please hook me up and maybe the other guys post i hijacked might like asewll
WOW THIS SERVER ROCKS, Please give the name...
its "Higher Ground". Look up there epic leveling system.
For your level 60 character i suggest you go to the Higher Ground message board and look at their builds. Their builds are meant to go all the way to 60
I think a wizard assassin might due the trick. Thax, are you sure Enchant Arrow XXV is available as the max DR is +20? If it is it would be cool as the extra AB and damage do not apply to the cap.
Who could have known that? hehe =)
I think a wizard assassin might due the trick. Thax, are you sure Enchant Arrow XXV is available as the max DR is +20? If it is it would be cool as the extra AB and damage do not apply to the cap.