This is just some idle thinking, I don't have any real plans to play this, though if it can be done I might have to give it a go.

The chain of thought that led to this was trying to think of weird builds and I thought that something that requires three stats would be pretty out there, something along the lines of Wizard (Int), Druid (Wis) and Sorceror (Cha) (taking Cleric makes use of Cha so it isn't as bad as Druid... so it doesn't work as being bad).

I don't play casters much so I don't really know if Sorcerors can specialise, but I thought that if they can then combining Sorceror with Wizard would allow two specialty schools... so how about Necromancy and Conjuration (I think), then throw in Fighter for a Grim Reaper?

Giving it more thought I started to think it might actually be a good to make a Grim Reaper character by replacing Wiz or Sorc with Pale Master, so I used the search engine and didn't come up with much. Mestil's Pale Emissary sounded damn good, and the Doom Lich also seemed to fit, despite protests in the latter thread that PM/Sorc/BG doesn't make any RP sense.

The BG really screams Grim Reaper to me, but the Doom Lich is the only combo of Sorc/PM/BG on the search engine. How would one go about getting 8 levels of Black Guard (to get Inflict Critical Wounds in order to heal Undead Summons) into such a Build without totally screwing your casting or dropping PM levels?

What about the Wizard version - Wiz/PM/Fighter(??)? How would you do this?

The idea for both is to weild a Scythe, use damaging shields and summon Undead servants.
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Thanks for the thesaurus you gave me, it makes me not write the same words over and over and over again Well if you want to be able to hit people with the Scythe, dont use the Pale Emissary. It is a caster build.
You will do awesome damage getting hit though.
If you want to use those classes and hit with the Scythe though, look another build by grizzled_dwarflord: The Deathless Pariah Click Here You will have to fit in weapon prof. exotics which shouldnt be a problem. You wont do much damage with the shields either. A lot of people prefer Weapon Master builds when using a Scythe for the damage and crit multiplier.

Edited By galelabriel on 05/30/07 00:45

I don't think the ability to actually hit anything with the Scythe really matters, it's mainly for show. Style points for wielding it in the first place, but also having something to swing that if you do actually manage to score a hit with (even with True Strike) has a chance of doing decent damage.
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Quote: The chain of thought that led to this was trying to think of weird builds and I thought that something that requires three stats would be pretty out there, something along the lines of Wizard (Int), Druid (Wis) and Sorceror (Cha) (taking Cleric makes use of Cha so it isn't as bad as Druid... so it doesn't work as being bad).

I'm unsure about what you're asking here, a build that uses three stats? I must've read wrong because that makes no sense, or if it is I would use maybe a DEX/WIS/CHA based Monk / Cleric / Harper Scout, as INT/WIS/CHA doesn't sounds as a good idea, but hell I'm sure I read wrong or something.

Quote: I don't play casters much so I don't really know if Sorcerors can specialise, but I thought that if they can then combining Sorceror with Wizard would allow two specialty schools... so how about Necromancy and Conjuration (I think), then throw in Fighter for a Grim Reaper?

Taking both Sorcerer and Wizard only gives you a higher amount of spells, but a lower DC and Penetration, check my Arcane Spammer, you'll notice he gets many many spells but Sorcerer spells get a low DC and all spells have low Penetration, so he's not such a great caster, for PvP you won't last long enough to spend that much spells anyway.
To specialize simply take Spell Focus on the schools you want to, it's better to be only Wizard or only Sorcerer for the spells to be strong, that also gives you more bonus epic feats.

Quote: What about the Wizard version - Wiz/PM/Fighter(??)? How would you do this?

Fighter pre-epic for BAB, 10 PM levels for the critical immunity and the stuff and fill the rest with Wizard, probably about a Fighter 14 / Pale Master 10 / Wizard 26, or similar, more Wizard for more spell Penetration and more Fighter for BAB, depends if you wish to focus more on melee or spellpower, it's a build between STR and INT, I like using Wizard bonus feats on Great Intelligence for this kind of builds.

Edited By Thaxll'ssyllia on 05/30/07 03:18

Quote: Posted 05/30/07 03:15 (GMT) -- Thaxll'ssyllia

probably about a Fighter 14 / Pale Master 10 / Wizard 26

You only get 40 levels, mister.
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Quote: Posted 05/30/07 08:20 (GMT) -- FinneousPJ

Quote: Posted 05/30/07 03:15 (GMT) -- Thaxll'ssyllia

probably about a Fighter 14 / Pale Master 10 / Wizard 26

You only get 40 levels, mister.

Whats bad is I had just got done reading Thax's post and thought yeah, that level split looks good. I confess that I didnt realize there were 50 levels either! I deserve that, didn't count right. You get the point. I don't really understand what you're going for, but Click Here for Grim(nir) Reaper Style.
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