Aasimar has got to have Paladin Levels, while I'd like the Tiefling to have Blackguard/Rogue, respecting there race's favored classes. But the Aasimar has got to be good and the Tiefling has got to be evil. I'd like to thank you, ya'll have good ideas. This is also PvE and maonly a RP build.
etc etc etc
Also, more information on your build would be nice. Do you want DEX or STR? Do you want a melee, sneak, or caster? Important stuff to know, before we give you anything decent.
Just a thought.. it looks like you are playin on a modified PRC server. I am not sure how many peeps here play PRC. THis is important because there are ALOT of extras that PRC brings that should be taken into account. I know cuz for the last 1.5 yrs I have played on a PRC server. I have found that it is best to post build help with the server forums simply because the people posting there understand ALL the subtleties.
Tiefling is present on many worlds as a subrace, commonly available is Avariel as well. Assimar is NWN2 I think. Haven't seen it in nwn1.
Edited By Bromium on 08/17/07 14:23
Quote: Posted 08/17/07 14:21 (GMT) -- Bromium
Tiefling is present on many worlds as a subrace, commonly available is Avariel as well. Assimar is NWN2 I think. Haven't seen it in nwn1.
Nope, not just NWN2. It's a PRC race. Check Here. _________________ It's rogue, dammit, ROGUE!!!
Acually its non PRC and a low magic world, id like 21 levels of monk for the glowing eyes too but if not, then Im fine I can live without the glowing eyes.
Avado (as usual ) makes a very good point, but many of us here are familiar with both Aasimars and Tieflings ('specially those of us who also play NWN2 and/or PrC, too)
Yep, they're in NWN2 as PC races(planetouched), and I personally love them both (Aasimar paladins, just plain wonderful (and make a great race for clerics, too , as they get +2 stat bonus to both wis and cha, with their innate resistances and keen senses (and zero penalties in turn apart from being an ECL race) more about which everyone can read here: http://www.nwn2wiki.org/Aasimar
Tiefling's are wonderful, too, with a different set of racial boni (+2 dex, +2 intel., but -2 cha and also ECL; then, with free darkness, make great sneakers, this is true, and more about which everyone can read here: http://www.nwn2wiki.org/Tiefling
Of course, this is all general so far as it's the way NWN2 does it, and may not be the same on your or any other server. Also, and generally speaking, planetouched are pnp (supposed to get the free martial feat which is nice, but offset by the fact they're vulnerable to turning in pnp, which isn't so nice -- neither of which are true in NWN2 so far as this stuff wasnt implemented, however: that said, it may or may not be the case that a server where such subraces are available might have implemented these things, so you might want to check that); Otherwise, as noted, would be very helpful to know more details about your server, etc., and also more about what it you're looking for. Hope this helps, Tyr
Edited By TyrTemplar on 08/18/07 02:05
Quote: Posted 08/18/07 01:39 (GMT) -- PlyrSilver
Acually its non PRC and a low magic world, id like 21 levels of monk for the glowing eyes too but if not, then Im fine I can live without the glowing eyes.
First, nwn does not support these races without PRC module. so....
AHH!!! NWN2!! That makes sense! BUT, just maybe we should let him in on this one little thing.. there is a nwn2 epic builders guild, epic character builders part deux. That is the appropriate forum to ask questions for that game. Otherwise, those of us who play PRC nwn get totally confused and answer the totally wrong question, thus wasting your time, and OURS
then again, looking at the web link, it really could be a PNP build you need! Next time, you really really really have to ASK A QUESTION WITH ALL THE INFO! Otherwise we are left to ***.U+ME _________________
If he's talking epic levels (21 of Monk), then it's not NWN2. That game is restricted to 20 levels at present. _________________ It's rogue, dammit, ROGUE!!!
Quote: Posted 08/18/07 01:39 (GMT) -- PlyrSilver
Acually its non PRC and a low magic world, id like 21 levels of monk for the glowing eyes too but if not, then Im fine I can live without the glowing eyes.
You could try this build by myself. It's a 20 Paladin 18 Monk 2 Assassin. But, it could easily be modified as a 20 Paladin 20 Monk, if you really wanted glowing eyes (or just drop some Paladin for more Monk and a third class).
That's a nice build, Mantis: pal/monks, always work (and fallen pallys, ohhhh, excellent RP value, too!
Depending on the stat adj. and what the OP's looking for, was actually thinking about somthing similar, along the lines of pal 15/cot 5/monk 20 (or, for the 21 monk glowing eyes, could do: pal 15/monk 21 and either CoT or FTR 4; having established (I think that it's a PNP thing (and assuming not vulnerable to turning), then it should be (but no guarantee as also server dependent) that aasimars, as outsiders, come with glowing eyes automatically, no?
If so, then could go paladin 26/cot 5/monk 9 or (depending on magic level of the world, whether scrolls are available to make umd worthwhile, something like: pal 26/rogue 13/monk 1. Since the OP says it's low magic then probably not worth it (assuming scrolls aren't all that available; then again, all depends on what's meant by "low magic" -- i.e., from +1 to +3 items, I'd assume, but some consider up to +5 as low-magic, too.
Ah, but so many ways to enjoy an aasimar (or tiefling), this is true: as a smiter, a buffing meleer (with or without dev.crit), a sneaker, or anything else really. (and those eyes, indeed (at least as they come on NWN2: they're something else alright - talk about COOL!!! (yeah, I love 'em, too
And we'd all love to help you, Silver, of that I assure you (so let us know a bit more about your world's magic level, and what kind of character you're looking for, and our pleasure to work with you to ensure you get the celestial you be looking for ~ Cheers, Tyr
For a Tiefling Human, I love the Human race, what I want is a character that can go alone, as in being evil, lawful evil, dosent take help from anybody, unless a quarter dead. I was thinking about using a Bastard Sword and Tower Shield with Full Plate because Im not used to those things, I am mainly used to playing druids. I was thinking of Somehow doing Figher 10/ Monk 20/ Blackguard 10, but I am no expert at ordering when to take the classes, or what feats to take, or the useless/usefull skills.
Edited By PlyrSilver on 08/19/07 00:03
I've thought about it, but I dont know nothing about CoT, but I think it might be possibility for looking at the Searcher
For a Tiefling Human, I love the Human race, what I want is a character that can go alone, as in being evil, lawful evil, dosent take help from anybody, unless a quarter dead. I was thinking about using a Bastard Sword and Tower Shield with Full Plate because Im not used to those things, I am mainly used to playing druids. I was thinking of Somehow doing Figher 10/ Monk 20/ Blackguard 10, but I am no expert at ordering when to take the classes, or what feats to take, or the useless/usefull skills.
k, dude imvho you need some help! The link is for NWN2! You should go to THIS forum Click Here Most of us are members there too, but it wont be as confusing TRYIN to help you out! If you want to join that one, ask Anuis BUT, nwn2 ONLY goes to 20! so I am not really sure WHAT you are talking about.
My advice is to NOT post when you are distracted _________________
Here you go (as to the Aasimar, with more info about same in your box) -- basically, and keeping in mind your world and RP needs (Angels smite of course Here's a great smiter, with a really nice (and highly buffable) AB (especially on a GS X smiter, and non-dispellable either), with high saves, lots of innate immunities, celestial resisitances, your full range of paladin spells (incl. death ward and of course that great holy sword), with monk in for evasion and tumble AC, too.
The following takes into account the modified stats, etc. of the Aasimar (i.e., +2 wis, +2 cha, but -1 feat and -43 skills - as such, skills are lamentably thin really (but got what you really need). In short, then, a celestial smiter; as to the CoT, brings in feats, improves saves, and gives you the use of Divine Wrath (only once per day, but a really great thing to have in general, and especially when you're a GS X smiter, that and 12 rounds of it (self-enhanced w. your pally spells only), evil beware is alls I say
Aasimar, Lawful Good Champion of Torm(10), Paladin(29), Monk(1)
* does not include any magical items or equipment (not that you'll need any - Smite Evil back to the Underworld where it belongs and should stay, I say
Other: - Lay-on-Hands (Positive Energy): 348 vs. undead (w. aura, eagle’s) / also self-healing - Bless Weapon, +2d6 vs. Undead; Turn Undead (36+2d6, w. aura, eagle’s)
Tiefling Question: As to your Tiefling, hmmm ... querying monk in there (note: if you want to wear plate and use a bastard sword, that's cool, but would lose all your monk boni (speed, monk ac, etc.,) nor would you be taking advantage of the monk flurry (need a kama to do that) -- while the -2 cha tieflings get are a little bothersome for the BG class (a neg. cha, unlike pallys, detracts from saving throws), but we can easily adjust for that, so no biggie at all; also, I gather you want a str-based build (since bastard swords aren't finessable, nor are they flurry-able (only kamas and unarmed strikes are)
If you're set on plate and non-kamas, thinking though that a BG/rogue with either ranger or fighter might work better for you; of course, BG/monks are a great combo, too (be they str based or dex), but then, to really enjoy monk (especially with so many of it, and with so much to offer), you'll probably want to pick up the kamas and enjoy all that great monk stuff, like the monk AC bonus and wear robes, yes? _________________ "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good [people] to do nothing" -- Edmund Burke, Philosopher and Politician (1729-1797)
Edited By TyrTemplar on 08/19/07 06:36
No, Avado, it's not (yeah, I saw that NWN2 logo/advert there, too (and it threw me, too but it's NWN1 1-40 (RP-heavy, H&S and Party PvP):
Quote: Description The World of Raathi, a land of many factions, peoples and gods, is set in a unique, non-prefab campaign, setting all it's own. We have a friendly and helpful player and DM community to help anyone get started, and we welcome any roleplayers from people new to the game to hardcore DnD veterans. If you like to roleplay and are looking for a unique server, come check us out. -- Requires SoU, HotU and the CEP
_________________ "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good [people] to do nothing" -- Edmund Burke, Philosopher and Politician (1729-1797)
Edited By TyrTemplar on 08/19/07 06:58
my bad *shrugs*
(quote)Tiefling Question: As to your Tiefling, hmmm ... querying monk in there (note: if you want to wear plate and use a bastard sword, that's cool, but would lose all your monk boni (speed, monk ac, etc.,) nor would you be taking advantage of the monk flurry (need a kama to do that) -- while the -2 cha tieflings get are a little bothersome for the BG class (a neg. cha, unlike pallys, detracts from saving throws), but we can easily adjust for that, so no biggie at all; also, I gather you want a str-based build (since bastard swords aren't finessable, nor are they flurry-able (only kamas and unarmed strikes are)
If you're set on plate and non-kamas, thinking though that a BG/rogue with either ranger or fighter might work better for you; of course, BG/monks are a great combo, too (be they str based or dex), but then, to really enjoy monk (especially with so many of it, and with so much to offer), you'll probably want to pick up the kamas and enjoy all that great monk stuff, like the monk AC bonus and wear robes, yes?(/quote)
I Really didnt think of Rogue, but The red eyes looked so cool in a specific helmet, the darkness helm, and they do offer alot of Skill points. I just dont usually know what to do with them all.
Just a thought.. it looks like you are playin on a modified PRC server. I am not sure how many peeps here play PRC. THis is important because there are ALOT of extras that PRC brings that should be taken into account. I know cuz for the last 1.5 yrs I have played on a PRC server. I have found that it is best to post build help with the server forums simply because the people posting there understand ALL the subtleties. 
Acually its non PRC and a low magic world, id like 21 levels of monk for the glowing eyes too but if not, then Im fine I can live without the glowing eyes.
Avado (as usual 
) makes a very good point, but many of us here are familiar with both Aasimars and Tieflings ('specially those of us who also play NWN2 and/or PrC, too) 
, as they get +2 stat bonus to both wis and cha, with their innate resistances and keen senses (and zero penalties in turn apart from being an ECL race) more about which everyone can read here: http://www.nwn2wiki.org/Aasimar
and answer the totally wrong question, thus wasting your time, and OURS 
BUT, nwn2 ONLY goes to 20! so I am not really sure WHAT you are talking about.