I'm trying to make a dwarven spellsword(axe) based around Stravinsky00's Arcane Blade of Torm buid. Dual-wielding dwarven waraxes though.

1 - I can't seem to take EWS: Dwarven Waraxe as the final CoT feat. Not sure why. Any thoughts?

2 - I never know what metamagic is better focus for a spellsword build: feats in spell focus, feats in spell penetration, feats in combat casting. With limited feat selection which of the above is the more appropriate?

Build as done using Kamiryn's builder is as follows:

Class: Fighter(4), Wizard(26), Champion of Torm(10)
Race: Dwarf

Abilies
STR: 14 (22)
DEX: 15
CON: 16
WIS: 8
INT: 16 (24)
CHA: 6

01: Fighter(1): Weapon Proficiency Exotic, Ambidexterity
02: Wizard(1): {Scribe Scroll}
03: Fighter(2): Two-Weapon Fighting, Weapon Focus: Dwarven Waraxe
04: Wizard(2): STR+1, (STR=15)
05: Fighter(3)
06: Fighter(4): Weapon Specialization: Dwarven Waraxe, Power Attack
07: Wizard(3)
08: Wizard(4): STR+1, (STR=16)
09: Wizard(5): Knockdown, Extend Spell
10: Wizard(6)
11: Champion of Torm(1)
12: Champion of Torm(2): INT+1, Combat Casting, Cleave, (INT=17)
13: Wizard(7)
14: Champion of Torm(3): {Smite Evil}
15: Champion of Torm(4): Still Spell, Improved Critical: Dwarven Waraxe
16: Champion of Torm(5): INT+1, (INT=18)
17: Champion of Torm(6): Improved Two-Weapon Fighting
18: Wizard(8): Spell Penetration
19: Champion of Torm(7)
20: Champion of Torm(8): INT+1, Improved Knockdown, (INT=19)
21: Champion of Torm(9): Epic Weapon Focus: Dwarven Waraxe
22: Wizard(9)
23: Wizard(10): Great Intelligence I, (INT=20)
24: Wizard(11): STR+1, Improved Combat Casting, (STR=17)
25: Wizard(12)
26: Wizard(13)
27: Wizard(14): Great Intelligence II, (INT=21)
28: Wizard(15): STR+1, Great Intelligence III, (STR=18), (INT=22)
29: Wizard(16)
30: Wizard(17): Automatic Still Spell I
31: Wizard(18)
32: Wizard(19): STR+1, (STR=19)
33: Wizard(20): Automatic Still Spell II, Great Intelligence IV, (INT=23)
34: Wizard(21)
35: Wizard(22)
36: Wizard(23): STR+1, Automatic Still Spell III, Great Intelligence V, (STR=20), (INT=24)
37: Wizard(24)
38: Wizard(25)
39: Wizard(26): Great Strength I, Greater Spell Penetration, (STR=21)
40: Champion of Torm(10): STR+1, Epic Weapon Specialization: Dwarven Waraxe, (STR=22)

Statistic
Hitpoints: 364
Skillpoints: 273
Saving Throws (Fortitude/Will/Reflex): 30/23/26
Saving Throw bonuses: Spells: +11, Poison: +2
BAB: 26
AB (max, naked): 35 (melee), 28 (ranged)
AC (naked/mundane armor/shield only): 12/22
Spell Casting: Wizard(9)
Alignment Changes: 0

Skills Concentration 42(45), Discipline 43(49), Heal 43(42), Lore 8(17), Spellcraft 42(49), Spot 43(42), remaining skillpoints 52


Appreciate any sage advice from the guild.

WK stravs build is old. i am not sure of this, but it is quite possible that ews was changed in a patch. Otherwise i cant say. It is a solid twf build, though i would suggest handaxes (ala maxi suggestions) vs dwarfaxe.

With a spellsword, you arent really a heavy caster for offensive damage. Atleast, without eldritch knight, why would you want to be. What i am saying is that you are using the spells MOSTLY for buffs, ie, shields and the like. THUS, Extended becomes your friend. Also, if you have room, and gear doesnt give you the stat boosts, max or empower could also be good. You have still already, which is a must for auto still.

Basically, you are looking at doing a cleric with wizard buffs instead of divine buffs. THere is a flaw with that, being cleircs have way better buffs being they actually ARE caster fighters, but thats beside the point. IOW, dont look to spell penetration feats cuz you shouldnt be layin down 8 max IGMS if you are a fighter mage! If that's what you want, then go max wiz with high int and all those bells and whistles. It is unfortunate that nwn vanilla doesnt really have an option for a real fighter mage. It really hurts to have to give up spell levels for every fighter level. SOrry, i miss my ol' game

hope that helps
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1 - I can't seem to take EWS: Dwarven Waraxe as the final CoT feat. Not sure why. Any thoughts?

I'm pretty sure that the Dwarven Waraxe is the ONLY weapon that CoT cant select as a bonus feat when going for EWS. "Prior to version 1.69, epic weapon specialization in the dwarven waraxe could not be taken on a champion of Torm level."

Are you in version 1.69?
Quote: stravs build is old. i am not sure of this, but it is quite possible that ews was changed in a patch. Otherwise i cant say. It is a solid twf build, though i would suggest handaxes (ala maxi suggestions) vs dwarfaxe.

It is an old build but still very fun to play! Your suggestion for handaxes has merit – less dual penalty and frees up a feat (no need for exotic), but – there is just something about a dwarf dual wielding the dwarven waraxe I find appealing, and I often go for it with my dual dwarves. Trust me, once you try it you won’t want to go back to those sissy “elvish” handaxes.

Quote: With a spellsword, you arent really a heavy caster for offensive damage. Atleast, without eldritch knight, why would you want to be. What i am saying is that you are using the spells MOSTLY for buffs, ie, shields and the like. THUS, Extended becomes your friend. Also, if you have room, and gear doesnt give you the stat boosts, max or empower could also be good. You have still already, which is a must for auto still……. IOW, dont look to spell penetration feats cuz you shouldnt be layin down 8 max IGMS if you are a fighter mage! If that's what you want, then go max wiz with high int and all those bells and whistles.

Thanks, that’s just the advice I was seeking! I should ditch the spell pen feats for something else (a focus in a school probably – already have extended).

Quote: Basically, you are looking at doing a cleric with wizard buffs instead of divine buffs. THere is a flaw with that, being cleircs have way better buffs being they actually ARE caster fighters, but thats beside the point.

I’m all for clerics. I usually play one or a druid when making a ‘finger-wiggler’. Mostly for ease of spell selection, you’ll get no argument from me that the cleric isn’t an uber-powered machine. Still, I wanted to try something different here.

Quote: It is unfortunate that nwn vanilla doesnt really have an option for a real fighter mage. It really hurts to have to give up spell levels for every fighter level. SOrry, i miss my ol' game

Well, I still enjoy nwn for what it is.

Quote: hope that helps

It did. Thanks

Quote: I'm pretty sure that the Dwarven Waraxe is the ONLY weapon that CoT cant select as a bonus feat when going for EWS.

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"Prior to version 1.69, epic weapon specialization in the dwarven waraxe could not be taken on a champion of Torm level."
Are you in version 1.69?

Thanks guys, I remember reading that about the waraxe in another post here now that I think about it. I’m on 1.69 but have only tried to build this in the spreadsheet thus far (and the feat wasn’t able to be taken). I’ll try it now in a builder and get back to confirm if it now can be taken in 1.69 or not. I’m hoping so.

Cheers.

WK